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Old 07-04-2010, 12:51 PM
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I have been carving for about 31/2 years (still a novice) and have been dabbeling in power carving. I recently purchased a mastercarver micro pro unit and really like it so far. It runs at 45000rpm and does everything I ask of it so there is no complaints there. Now I want to buy another one and am thinking of a Foredom 1050 or the equivelant Marathon unit. Can someone help me comparing the mastercarver to the foredom or marathon unit? I know the upgrades are brushless and have a more precise speed control but, is there really any major difference in performance between them and will I notice it? Another thing is that I noticed that there is alot of 35k rpm micro's out there but I have been told to do detailing that one needs atleast a 45k machine. Why is this and why do the sellers of the 35k machines claim they will do fine detailing? I tried finding an NSK to compare but the only one I could find has rpms of like 37000 and a hefty price tag to boot. If someone could shoot a website or link on different micro motors to me would be appreceiated. I just don't want to get something that I will not be satisfied with and end up wasting my money. I want this to be the last machine I need to buy for a long while. Thanks for any help. Jim
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Hi Jstive,
I have both units and there is NO comparison..... The Foredom 1050 is the "King Kong" of micro motors.... Don't get me wrong. I like both units and for folks just starting out with a micro motor, getting the less expensive unit first to try it out and see how they like it, is a good thing.

The 1050 and the Marathon are probably the same machine. I'd be willing to bet that the factory that makes the big Marathon unit, makes the 1050 for Foredom. But with the Foredom unit, you get the Foredom people and service behind it.

If you do go with the Marathon, be sure you read a much earlier thread, detailing one of our other member's experiences when he purchased the unit from a dental supply place. He got it at a good price but when it needed service, the place he bought it, could not give him any info on where to get service for it. The dental supplier quit taking his calls and then later, when our member posted his experiences with said supplier, this guy actually had the gall to sign on as a member, hunt up the old thread and bash the member who had purchased the machine from him. (We shut him down pretty good though and he hasn't been heard from since) The thread was started by me and is titled "micro motors at a dental supply" and is 2 or 3 pages back in the power carving section. Torpid Hummer (Oscar) is the member who bought the Marathon. He posted what he found in his search for a place to service the unit, so that we could all benefit from the info.

Back to the comparison on the units....the 1050 is brushless. It has power and high torque. The same cautions apply to it that apply to other micro motors...don't run it with the collet open, don't close the collet with nothing in it. Keep a bit in it at all times. Don't flip into reverse while it's running, or vise versa.

But the bearings on this thing are amazing. Give the bit a spin between your fingers and it will keep turning on it's own for quite a few more rotations....but it must have a brake built into it for when you are running it and turn it off....you don't have to wait any time for it to quit turning because it stops right away when you shut it off. My Master Carvers keep turning for a little bit and I don't open the collet until they stop. It's not a big deal but I like the brake so I can put the new bit in and get going again....always in a hurry, that's me...LOL.

I like the digital read out of how fast you are going. The hand piece is pretty well sealed up so wood dust is less of an issue, although I still recommend gently blowing some compressed air into the business end of the handpiece after each use, before re inserting a bit and closing it up for the night.

I am very paranoid about making sure that the collet is fully closed before turning on the machine. Literally "OCD" about it. I will try to give the handpiece another click, just to make sure it won't go any further....not hard, not to force anything, just to double check that it's really closed.

I really love my 1050 unit. For use with bits that have a bit larger heads and might put some drag on a smaller unit, the 1050 doesn't seem to notice. When doing a prolonged job, like texturing a santa beard, this thing never gets tired. I still don't use anything larger than a 3/32 collet in it but if you insist on putting a 1/8 collet in a micro motor, this is the one to do it with.

I also can't say enough good about the people behind the Foredom name. When you need good service and a good turn around time on repairs, they are the ones you want to deal with. I have not needed repairs on the 1050 yet. I always assume that sooner or later, a handpiece will need new bearings but so far, not on this one. I have 2 older Foredom micro motors...about 15 years old now. Both have had to go back a couple times for new bearings. I love dealing with the folks at Foredom.
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Hi Jim,
I re read your post and NSK is a very fine unit. I don't know why they bother to make something that only goes 37,000.... they do make a unit that goes 45,000 or more but it's hard to find a supplier that carries those models...don't have a clue why. Perhaps it's price. Even Foredom makes some units that only go 38,000 and those are their cheaper versions. Like any other manufacturer, they have to compeat, price wise, so that is their answer.

If I failed to answer any of your other concerns, don't be afraid to pm me. I'm always glad to help.
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Don't want to cloud the issue, but I have a Ram micro motor and love it. It goes 45,000 (if I remember right) and the handpiece is very comfortable. I use my Foredom to rough out a carving, then do the cleanup and finishing work with the Ram. It's not nearly as expensive as the NSK and has a reverse, which is handy. (I have carved with the NSK and it's awesome--very little vibration in the handpiece, smooth operation, but oh my, the cost!!) I have tried out the Master Carver and it's ok, but I have not tried the marathon.
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Hi Jim,

I've been looking for this Ram 45 and finally found it here. http://www.mdiwoodcarvers.com/Produc...productID=2425

It's at MDI Woodcarvers for $180.00. The model is the Escort III Marathon Micro-motor.
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I just want to thank everyone for their opinions and to let everyone know that I bought a Marathon Handy 700 micro motor. The reason being is it's the same machine as the foredom 1050 micro without the huge price tag. This one cost enough though (675.00) but with the foredom running anywhere from 895.00 to over a 1000.00 I thought this was a good deal. I did check out warranty and service and have that covered so even though I won't be dealing with the good folks at foredom I feel confident that I can have anything taken care of as far as warranty and service repairs are concerned. I also read the older posts of a person that was upset (and rightly so) with a certain dental supply co. Well I happened to go on their website and seen that they have several Marathon units. Now I don't know the difference between the 700,701,or 702 Marathon Micro motor but this place has a Marathon 702 on sale for 399.00. It looks just like the foredom 1050 and has all the same things it does. I do know that this machine is a hell of a deal but one must check out who is selling it. I know that it retailed for around 800.00. Anyway thanks alot everyone. Jim
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I just want to thank everyone for their opinions and to let everyone know that I bought a Marathon Handy 700 micro motor. The reason being is it's the same machine as the foredom 1050 micro without the huge price tag. This one cost enough though (675.00) but with the foredom running anywhere from 895.00 to over a 1000.00 I thought this was a good deal. I did check out warranty and service and have that covered so even though I won't be dealing with the good folks at foredom I feel confident that I can have anything taken care of as far as warranty and service repairs are concerned. I also read the older posts of a person that was upset (and rightly so) with a certain dental supply co. Well I happened to go on their website and seen that they have several Marathon units. Now I don't know the difference between the 700,701,or 702 Marathon Micro motor but this place has a Marathon 702 on sale for 399.00. It looks just like the foredom 1050 and has all the same things it does. I do know that this machine is a hell of a deal but one must check out who is selling it. I know that it retailed for around 800.00. Anyway thanks alot everyone. Jim
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I have a RAM unit and love it. Have mastercraft and will not purchase another one.
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