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Old 08-14-2007, 09:38 PM
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Hello all,

I'm building a duplicator using a 1 1/2 hp 1/4" collet (only) router.

I'll make my own stylus bits from the actual router bits used.

This will be used mostly for making electric guitars. I need to route pickup and electronics cavities, outside body shape, and rough out the neck back shape.

Some of my guitars are also hand carved on the top of the body, and would like to rough out the carvings as well.

I plan on using a 3/4"-1" core box for roughing, 1/4" downward spiral for cavities and outside body shape.

1/4" core box to rough carvings, and a 60 degree "signmakers" bit for carving details. I will then finish off the carvings by hand.

Does this make sense? Are there other types of bits more usefull than this?

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Old 08-15-2007, 12:43 AM
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im igoranant about fuplicators and bits,
but Im thinking with all these trim routers and 1.4:" routers i got round here it would be nice to have a simple roughing out duplicator for christmas time to just to get to the carving quicker, of the santas ive promised,
have you figured out a plan or parts. that would be needed?
i never seen but the ones in pictures and few of them,

would love to see if its not to complicated to build, i have mid level metal working skills and can stick or wire weld.
hope you can share some ideas with an old dog.
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I wouldnt mind having a look at some plans either if its not to much troble .
Thanks . AL
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I built one from "copy carver" online plans for $20.00 well worth it. Here is a link:

http://copycarver.com/

Don't let the simplicity fool you, it really works great! I get nothing for my "add" but I do love the duplicator....

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http://www.dust-n-shavings.com/panto...pantograph.htm
http://www.copycarver.com/index.htm
http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/in...pic=17816&st=0
http://www.mykaguitars.com/tools/carver/default.htm
http://www.terrco.com/marlin.php

Private and dealer pages for different styles of duplicators. Myka guitar, and project guitar both show home made jobs that are quite nicely done. This is the type I plan on making. These use linear slide bearings for 2D movement, and rotate on 1 axis for the 3D. These bearings and guide rods are generally very expensive. There is a company that makes linear bearings out of delrin at a very reasonable cost however. Clearly ball bearings would be a cut above delrin, but if cost is a factor, delrin is an option.. see http://www.pacific-bearing.com/produ...3-50C4A64E6024

If cost is REALLY a factor, buy the plans of the "duplicarver" and make one for $200...... I think it's probably a decent "hobby machine, but would not give the accuracy I need for guitars. Again, just a guess, my own opinion not based on experience. however, look on that sight, you can see so many pictures, it's not likely you actually need to buy the plans..... These are not complicated machines.... look at some of these webpages, and you'll get a very good idea of how they're put together.

The "terrco" is a very expensive good quality unit. Performance is hard to match on a home made machine.

If that aint enough, search duplicator/duplicarver/3d duplicator/carving duplicator.....etc.

Now.... anybody own *ANY* of these above machines? Use it? If so... what bits do you prefer?

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Makes perfect sense al.That's basically the steps I use. One other bit I find handy is a 1/4 inch veining bit. This one just leaves little ridges instead of sharp edges,,and if used closely enough you can get a fairly smooth finish as opposed to square edged bits and the rounded end doesn't seem to "grab" as easily.Can't hurt ,,give it a try.
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"postal, It was not anything that you were doing incorrectly......

New members (or rather one's with low post counts, as in your circumstance) that post links in their subject don't actually get posted until they are approved by a moderator.... It was our fault.

This is a way to keep spam down, but it sometimes catches legit posts too. Not all of the moderators have figured out how to recognize posts that need approving. I don't come to this forum often and sort of happened upon it by mistake.

I went back and approved some of your old posts.

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Got the duplicates all cleaned up now.

Thanks for the help Mitchell and Mark.
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I built one from "copy carver" online plans for $20.00 well worth it. Here is a link:

Copy Carver the woodcarvers copy machine

Don't let the simplicity fool you, it really works great! I get nothing for my "add" but I do love the duplicator....

Greg
Hi Greg,

Thanks for the tip. This looks great!

Do you happen to know another way to get in touch with the inventor Ed Walicki? I bought the plans online but never received the username and password for download. The support phone number on the site has been disconnected and he is not responding to emails.

Thanks,

Mike
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Greg,
I clicked on the site and it said it copies an object in minutes, not hours...
Did you find that to be true? Perhaps a small object? I have considered a duplicator off and on for years now. My biggest problem is having the space for one.... and whether or not I would really use it or if it would be hard for me to use....I am a small person. Tell me more about your unit.
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