[slivers&dust]

Hey Mark I just checked out the description on those two DVD's on the History Chanel site you mentioned.

I ordered the Mountain Men and will probably order the Hunting Tech next.

THANKS!

[Hi_Ho_Sliver]

Don't forget ol Dan'l Boone, that guy was up in his 80's when he came west to Pikes Peak, that was one tough old bird!

[Ashbys]

I really Hate movies for reference. Mostly because few if any really do their homework to portray the time period. Even when they make movies based upon actual accounts with great descriptions of the actual dress, equipment and the area they still rewite them to be untruthful and to sell tickets to make money , which is the driving force behind them.

Here is what I mean , what was the time span for the movie ? Did it happen in 1600's , 1700's or 1800's ? There were mountianmen in the early 1600's in the Mississippi Valley, the french/ canadian explorers In the early 1700's there were mountianmen , trappers in Eastern PA , New York , Virginia, Tenn, the ohio Valley all refered to as mountianmen, and trappers. Then into the mid 1880's the western mountianmen existed.

The biggest problem is that when ever they do a movie they combine all 300 years into a package and try to make it look like it all happened in a period of 2 - 3 years.

If you want some really good reference material , narrow your search, then look to the dress of the period , 1824 Plain Indians look at Charles Bird King and the portrats he painted, it will give you an excellent example of the Indian dress of the Indians, and the large influence of the whites into the lives of the Indians in territories which were not states. But you need to look at period attire to really see how a mountianman would be dressed. Try and remember our own nations timeline and that will help a lot in understanding the mountianmen and the problems with defining them.

[slivers&dust]

That’s a good point regarding historical accuracy, one to remember for sure.

At this point I’m just trying to find good pictures of trappers or mountain men in some kind of animal skin hat, buckskin shirt, etc. so I can try a carving without making another copy of someone else’s work.
I like the way the characters in the film were portrayed in the different seasonal clothing and gear, better to have some kind of model other then my limited imagination I figure. Whether regionally or historically accurate or not really isn’t a concern for my purpose, but that’s not to say it’s not important, especially if I was doing a historical piece. That said, I might change my mind as I continue my casual (re) search

[justanick]

I might be a little late jumping in here. Has anyone here ever go to a modern mountian man r'vous? Sometime called buckskinners.
I am an historical re-enactor. I know from my own experience that If you are portraying an historical figure weather real or not you better do your research.
So if you get a chance to go to one of these events, go. There are guys out there that take this stuff very seriously. They know thier stuff every thing that they have is historicaly accurate. And most of the good folks will be glad to answer any questions.
There is also a book titled "1840 Scetchbook" It was drawn by a man that witnessed the last r'vous
lots of good info on clothing and gear carried by the mountian men.

[slivers&dust]

thanks justanick, that book sounds great but I couldn't find it. Do you have a link or a source for it by chance?

[justanick]

Hi sorry for not getting back sooner.
Been getting over the flu past few days. feeling a little better now. I looked up the correct ttile of the book. It is 1837 Sketch book of the Western fur Trade written by Rex Allen Norton.
go to http://www.crazycrow.com/Merchant2/m...roduct_Count=9this will be helpful.

[slivers&dust]

Thanks, hope your feeling better.

I was able to find it and a couple others along with some more web sites during my searching.

thanks again.