[Ron Davidson]

Ash had asked me how I did my pattern layout and such without seeing. Well that one I haven't figured all the way out. While I could still see some I put as much down on my peices of wood as possible and here is how I do it if you are interested there are two ways. The first way is to enlarge the pattern to the size I want. Then I transfer the pattern to a heavy paper we also use to write in braille you could also use paper made for card stock for printers. This is usually where I have to have some help in cutting out the different layers. The first pattern I have cut to the deepest area then the second one is for the next deepest and so on. You might be able to tell by the pictures. I the lay no 2 on the wood and using a small 1/8 in gouge I follow the edge of the pattern cutting a groove and follow the same procedure for each layer or level of depth. Part two of this you will be able to see more I hope. I don't know if you can see but on the bottom left corner is a braille mark that they are numbered by.

[wade clark]

Ron,
I wouldn't be surprised if you could market paterns done this way. It'd be a great tool for any carver! Nicely done! "Necessity is the Mother of Invention". It's similar to the way they carve stone and glass with sandblasting.
Wade

[Ashbys]

Ron ,

I need to know how much detail you want. Do you want the rocks in the foundation, planks marked , shingles located .

And since there is a mirror lake type thing do you want the reflections set on the layers as depth , or do you want it as a flat layer ?

I think it is doing pretty well so far, and should make a good pattern for you.

What I am thinking , is to cut them in thin plastic , and using two dowel points that you can lock into the bottom two corners so that each will stack correctly.
Then you can place one , track the pattern section , then turn on the next and locate it on the dowels and do the next pattern.
I will have to play with size a bit , but you should be able to rest your V -tool against it to trace each line.

Also I need to know excat size. The pattern right now is 15 by 20, and need to be sized excatly to your piece.

Let me know
Ash

[Ron Davidson]

Ash I think 15X20 is perfect for the size I have.This will leave a 1/2 in border all the way around. As far as the plank and rock area I do usually mark them also just to get them in the right area. The reflection pool is the same I usually make a shallow area. It's kind of hard to tell the angle sometime. Give me a call if you have any questions.

[Irish]

Good Morning Ron!

Susan here.

Garry sent me copies of the mill pattern to look at last evening. His pattern work looks very good but I am very concerned that it is not very easy for you to read with your fingers.

The mill scene is very complicated with all the lumber structures, wheel boards and building details.

He and I spoke for quite a while this morning and I told Garry to set this pattern aside for now. See me behaving like a Momma, putting my foot down and telling the kids how to do this chore

I think you and Garry need to start with something very very simple first. I suggested my little barn scene. It has only the top floor of the barn, the barn roof, a copula, a silo and a few background trees.

The reason I suggested this one is that it is so simply it will let you and Garry practice to see how his patterns work and you to see what you like and do not like in the pattern templates.

I believe your fingers and Garry's laser cutter need to learn to talk to each other before you take on a complex pattern like the mill scene. Learn how the patterns will work for you, what changes you might need in the next pattern and how they work when you start carving.

I know you are very capable of carving this complex mill scene and I know that many of the elements will be easy for you to work. I just think you two need to first develop the template pattern ideas before you go to something this big.

Susan

(Oh, see the big grin on my face because I am delighted and happy to be part of this project.)

[Irish]

It's Susan again. See me looking sheepish because I had a senior moment here.

We also talked about the idea of Garry making a relief rough out of the mill. He might be able to burn the levels into the wood for you. Then, just like any three dimensional rough out you would do the actual layering, rounding off and detailing.

Susan

[Ron Davidson]

That also sounds great Susan. It was a pleasure to visit with you.
Ron

[Ashbys]

Susan,

Yes I am being to much me . But The simple line will work much better. Oh and Susan , I will e-mail you the pattern that I do the burn on. I think you might like to see it

Ron ,
I will be sending you the simple stencil pattern and this one a bit more roughed out. I think you will really like it.

I know I do .

Garry

[Irish]

Originally Posted by Ashbys

Yes I am being to much me .

Garry

Susan

[Ashbys]

Susan ,

This is the raised line print , I sent to you today. I think this is what we talked about .

Garry