[Ron Davidson]

Wade- I have been bald as an egg since I was 19yrs old. I always had to put up with the bald jokes. I also used to tell people that god made a few perfect heads and some he put hair on. But it never bothered me when people made fun I figured it was their insecurity talking. Great story though. Ron

[Nancy_G]

I'm humbly and publicly offering a profound apology (not an easy task for me) to Archie.

What's the matter Al.... Can't you take a joke?

[AlArchie]

Geeze, Nanc! Me too. Guess I'm just tired and not sure how to take stuff today. I guess I knew you were kidding, just as I hoped you knew I was.
Hoo-boy.....

[BasketballJones]

I'll be honest, when I first got on this sight I never knew about female carvers. Then I saw some of the sights and learned about Nora Hall. I think the painting is harder than the carving so I would have assumed ladies/girls have a steadier hand and are more patient. Three things my wife won't let me do is paint inside, wallpaper, and plumbing. She does them, especially the plumbing I don't have the patience or touch to change a facet without breaking it.

Second you guys must have never had a sister or sisters. Lot of people don't know this but underneath that nice hair there are two little horns. Oh it's true. Because when guys get married and go bald it's really a halo, but wives don't go bald because they still have to cover the horns. My mom, still has her horns, and I'm 44. And on top of those horns is radar antennas. True, been married 20 years next month. She knows exactly what I'm thinking before I've thought it. . Hope you enjoyed my theory.

And Nancy I hope you are doing well and start carving soon.

[Ashbys]

Basketball ,

Are you my brother_ in -law! I swear I know that woman !



(arena Boxing starting! )

Wade and Ron, according to my uncle , there just wasn't enough room there for brains, and hair.

[Irish]

I think that I may well take a stand here. I have enjoyed the fun and the jokes and most of all the sharing by the other women artists on the forum. I very much appreciate that each of us in life have "problems to overcome" whether it be health, age, income, sex, race, or religious believes. I did not start this thread to "complain, bemoan, or just plain wallow in the Poor Little Ol Me's". I started this post because I have repeatedly been asked if L. S. Irish, Lora S. Irish and Susan were the same person. I posted to give everyone the answer and I told you why I have used these different names over the years.

This was not started as a flaming Women's Lib posting ... but I am going to end it that way.

In High School our senior Trig class kept a running score from all of the tests. The person that earned the highest grade won a small scholarship fund. On the last day of class I and one boy had the top scores and those scores were the same. To break the tie the teacher decided to offer one more problem. He gave it first to the boy and when the boy answered it correctly the teacher annouced that the contest was over and that the boy had won. I was never even offered the chance to solve the problem.

In college I had an art professor ream me a new one in the mddle of class in front of about 40 other students (about 35 males and five females). What did he ream me out about ... that it was a waste of his time to be bothered to teach girls because we would just go and get pregnant (that was not the word he used ... he used the F word) and therefore never paint again.

After college I worked for several years in my parent's business. My husband, then my boyfriend, applied for a job with my parents. I had by then gone to college and then spent several years working to earn both my teaching liscences and certificates for the industry. When my father hired my boyfriend he took me aside to explain that Michael would be starting with a salary 1 DOLLAR higher than mine ... my Dad made no bones about the fact that men needed to earn more than woman.

In 1974 when I left college the average man earned $13,757 USA. Woman earned $8,262. In a society that places heavy value on the amount ofincome one makes - it is equal to social estime that figure made me worth 56 cents on the dollar to my husband, father, and brothers. Today's figures are not much different, 2003 Male earned $55,334 Woman earned $39,170 I am now up to being worth 71 cents for every dollar a man is worth.

I am posting this because ... yes, we gal have come along way but please consider that your wife, daughters, and grand-daughters are not even valued at three quarters of what you are today. It also applies that she can only buy 3/4 of the health insurance you do, 3/4 of the food, 3/4 of the housing .... she has only 3/4's of the chances that you have.

I will end this will what I said in the original posting. It has ONLY been in the wood carving community that I have not experiences prejudgices. This is the one place that I have found in my life where sex, race, age, or religion don't mean squat!

And that last paragraph was what this was all about. For all of the joking, fun comments, grinning gabs I am stating clear, fully, and loudly here ... I am worth a $1 and have always been.

Susan




Footnote: http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/incom...inc/p37ar.html
Historical Income Tables - People

[BobD]

Wow, and I wasn't even born until 1977 <grin>


Seriously, though, that is an eye opener. My wife works in mental health (she married me, go figure) and most of her co-workers are also female. They have a few males (big guys to handle the more violent patients) but it really is a female dominated field. So I guess I was never exposed to this concept in the modern field....

But if I shift this around, the CEO of the company she works for is male...so who knows if the trickle down effect is going against ALL the female employees...interesting concept!

Let rouse some Rabble!!!!
Bob

[BobD]

This thread is going to get me in trouble <Grin>

B

[wade clark]

Susan,
You're worth at least $1.10 to us!
Wade

[BobD]

I think you should move that decimal point to the right a few places Wade <grin>


Bob