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06-09-2008, 07:56 AM
|  | Moderator | | Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bessemer, MI
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| | More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ My neighbor just got back from a fishing trip to Canada, and a fair trip it was......BUT!
His outboard hadn't been running well since the last trip, so it went into the shop a couple weeks back. All three carbs had to be rebuilt. The gaskets, needle valves and carb floats had ALL been degraded due to using that corn fed blessing we now have (15% ethanol gasoline). Cost him almost 500 bucks to buy this "corn" :+( His rig is only three years old, but was not designed to handle the corrosive affects of ethanol in the gas. The tech recommended he either not use ethanol added gas or use one of several anti-corrosive additives in 15% ethanol.
"New" cars and small engines are either designed now, or will be, to handle the corrosive affects of this stuff, but if your engines are more than a couple years old, and you'd like to keep them out of the repair shop, either stay away from the e-gas or make sure you use the additives. All the stuff they recommended was around 7 bucks a PINT and mixes one ounce to a gallon of fuel, so this adds considearably to the cost of your gas.
Just a small "heads-up"!
Al | 
06-09-2008, 08:14 AM
|  | member | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: No. Wisc.
Posts: 109
| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ Also be aware that your mpg will go down a fair amount using the corn stuff. That means our costs go even higher. Corn should be on the cob, on the plate and in the bread. Not in our gas. | 
06-09-2008, 09:03 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jay, Oklahoma
Posts: 2,087
| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ I heard a rumor that the particle board industry is really worried because someone has figured out a way to make ethanol from wood shavings. Keep those chips flying fellas'.....there's good times ahead!!!! | 
06-09-2008, 02:32 PM
|  | Member | | Join Date: Sep 2006
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| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ Hey Lynn, I remember you posted a link to a "U" tube thing on water burning.. Well, in todays paper here in middle GA the Air Force base has received some sort of machine that turns water into hydrogen for use in an experimental forklift there at the base. It is trailer mounted and to be used temporarily until the permanent structure can be built. Then the conversion of vehicles will commence.
Soooo, who knows, maybe sometime in the future we will be using hydrogen everywhere.................... | 
06-09-2008, 02:53 PM
|  | Moderator | | Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: Arizona
Posts: 9,256
| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ Yeh, except I have been reading where there is a shortage of water!!! unless they start up desalination plants all over, they create more problems than they solve! | 
06-09-2008, 04:31 PM
| | Butter Fingers | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: W. New York
Posts: 506
| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ GM already have cars that run on hydrogen fuel cells.
They have a fuel cell developement center in Honeoye Falls, NY.
They've been visiting local schools with one of their vehicles. GM - Technology - Fuel Cells - Fuel Cell Milestones
I'd wager that is why the price of oil is sky rocketing because the oil mongers know the end is near. Cash in while we still have the consumers over the barrel! | 
06-09-2008, 04:43 PM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SEKansas, Born and raised a Jayhawker
Posts: 6,288
| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ Quote:
Originally Posted by brian bailey GM already have cars that run on hydrogen fuel cells.
I'd wager that is why the price of oil is sky rocketing because the oil mongers know the end is near. Cash in while we still have the consumers over the barrel! |
Now that is fUNNY!
BTW Brian, Who do you think are the "oil mongers"?
Inquiry minds want to know. | 
06-09-2008, 06:17 PM
| | Butter Fingers | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: W. New York
Posts: 506
| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ Kenny, I'll answer your question with some letters: OPEC.
Once the industrial nations get their alternate fuel sources in place, then OPEC will be told what their oil is worth. | 
06-09-2008, 06:42 PM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SEKansas, Born and raised a Jayhawker
Posts: 6,288
| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ At least you know who they are. Here in the US most think it is the oil companies. Thank you for your honest and correct answer.Best to you
Coming from the oil patch myself, I find some of the smartest people don't know who is causing the oil problem and what to do about it. SADLY, we have enough oil in and around the US to take care of our needs for at least 60 years but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, and I will leave it at that.
One thing that would help us and the Farmers out is to charge those same OPEC countries high prices for our grains as they charge us for the oil we get from them. Hey fair is fair. If they don't want to pay our high grain prices, let them eat and drink their oil.
Ok, I will get of my soap box.
Best to you | 
06-09-2008, 07:55 PM
| | torpidhummer | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chula Vista,CA
Posts: 257
| | Re: More on the "new" gasooleene!@#^&*@!$ I agree with you Kenny and all, gas prices, water shortages,foreclosures, here in So. California we can't get water from No. California because some Federal Judge, decided that some almost microscopic smelt is being carried through the pipelines from the dams and might just disappear. I wonder if that little smelt is worth carving..hmmm..sell it later as the fish that disappeared.
Please Uncle Sam don't help me I can starve all by myself, thank you.
Just one of those days. $4.89 a gallon of gas. Didn't we hear someone, about 8 years ago say, we would have surplus oil as soon as we take of Iraq and have the bad guys pay for the war.  ![003[1]](http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/images/smilies/003[1].gif)
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