[William]

Hi "Guy's"

I'm collecting background information for my next back burner project and I would like to know if anyone could shed some light on Guy Fawkes and how people feel about him today and do any of you celebrate November 5th in your area.

The story of the "Gunpowder Plot" is fascinating, it has treason, conspiracy, religious conflict, last minute intrigue and violent executions.

One of the things I found very interesting is that Guy Fawkes was the original "Guy", I have said "that guy" or "some guy" or "you guys" many times during my life but never knew that Guy Fawkes is where that use started. Kids would go door to door on November 5th and say "penny for the Guy" (much like we do on Halloween with "trick or treat") to collect money for fire crackers to use on Bonfire or "Bone Fire" night as it was called then where they would burn an effigy of Guy Fawkes, but in 1605 when you called someone "Guy" it meant he was weird.

I have all of the wood needed for a 9" x 14" bust and have drawn a front view pattern using the Guy Fawkes Mask from the movie "V for Vendetta", this should be a good project for me seeing as how I can't paint worth a darn and this bust will be all black and white. Anyone have any input on "The Guy" (thats what I'm going to call it) or the Gunpowder Plot, what do you call the November 5th celebration in your area and is it a big thing like our Halloween?

HappY Trails
Bill
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Guy Fawkes Night - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Thor]

Learn something everyday on this board...never heard that one.

[AlArchie]

Hmmm.....interesting.....I wonder if the "Fox Night" in Detroit, where arson fires were traditionally set is a corruption of the term "Fawk's Night???


Al

[Kenny_S]

Nope, Never heard of it or him. some pictures when you "get er done"

[susieq]

William,
I used to live in Britain and attended several of our British friend's Guy Fawkes celebrations when I was a child. I remember that the celebrations involved buring Guy Fawkes in Effigie, lots of fire works and bon fires. We (the kids) always had conker fights too. Conkers are the seeds on horse chestnut trees and we strung them on shoe laces or anything else we could find and beat the crap out of each other all in the name of good fun. Appearantly Guy Fawkes tried to blow up Parliment? I really don't know much about it but I am sure you could google it and get all the answers that you need. My father was Air Force and we spent 3 and a half glorious years over there. I loved every minute of it. One of the best times of my child hood.

[rakau]

I was born in the UK,and Guy Fawkes,or Bonfire night,was an event to look
forward to,a bonfire would be started a month before 5th Nov,all manner of
rubbish would be collected and added to the pile,the bonfire had to be
guarded,or the lads from the next village would try and set fire to it before
the big night.
Here in NZ guy fawkes has always been popular,but it seems to be dying
out,the hooligan faction have spoilt the event,now halloween is quietly
moving forward and replacing Nov 5th.

Jack in Enzed

[William]

Guy Fawkes was new to me too, it was the movie that got me curious.

I got er roughed out today Kenny but it may be November before I get er done

Yep, you are right Susieq, there were several conspirators involved but he was the demolition expert. That sounds like a good duty station for those special memories.

Hey Jack, I like the part about spending a month building the burn pile and then having to protect it until the 5th, that sounds like a "REAL" party, I think Halloween has just turned into a money maker like most of our holidays, we have that "hooligan faction" too but we call it WalMart.

Thanks for the replies guys, hehe..thats guys in a nice way, I'll use them with this new conversation piece for my collection.

HappY Trails

Bill
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[Clivewoodcarver]

I found this and a link below, that I thought you might find interesting.. Don't beleive the movie stuff.. In Hollywood They always change and distort facts of history.

Remember Remember
the Fifth of November


Nursery Rhyme & History Guy Fawkes & the Gunpowder Plot
Words of "Remember Remember" refer to Guy Fawkes with origins in 17th century English history. On the 5th November 1605 Guy Fawkes was caught in the cellars of the Houses of Parliament with several dozen barrels of gunpowder. Guy Fawkes was subsequently tried as a traitor with his co-conspirators for plotting against the government. He was tried by Judge Popham who came to London specifically for the trial from his country manor Littlecote House in Hungerford, Gloucestershire. Fawkes was sentenced to death and the form of the execution was one of the most horrendous ever practised (hung ,drawn and quartered) which reflected the serious nature of the crime of treason.
The Tradition begins...
The following year in 1606 it became an annual custom for the King and Parliament to commission a sermon to commemorate the event. Lancelot Andrewes delivered the first of many Gunpowder Plot Sermons. This practice, together with the nursery rhyme, ensured that this crime would never be forgotten! Hence the words " Remember , remember the 5th of November" The poem is sometimes referred to as 'Please to remember the fifth of November'. It serves as a warning to each new generation that treason will never be forgotten. In England the 5th of November is still commemorated each year with fireworks and bonfires culminating with the burning of effigies of Guy Fawkes (the guy). The 'guys' are made by children by filling old clothes with crumpled newspapers to look like a man. Tradition allows British children to display their 'guys' to passers-by and asking for " A penny for the guy".



Gunpowder Plot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[William]

Clivewoodcarver, that's Hollywood for ya, they can turn a villain into a super hero and in the movie they did it twice, I thought Agent Smith (Hugo Weaving) from the MatriX made an excellent "V"

I just bought a Delta ShopMaster scroll saw for ornaments and I thought the Mask would be an easy Portrait project because it was so simple but after researching the history of Guy I decided on a bust instead.

The bust is really rough so far but at least the power part was completed today, from this point on it will be all gouge and knife, the base is Plum, the brim is 1/4" oak plywood and the bust is bass. The front will be "The Guy" and the back will be "The Gunpowder Plot" with part of the Rhyme, Parliament, the tunnel and a few barrels of gunpowder.

Thanks Clive

HappY Trails
Bill
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[Clivewoodcarver]

Bill
Guy look to be progressing nicely. I like the sound of your theme I bet it'll look great when you have finished.

I look forward to seeing him finished


Clive