[Old_Gord]

santagibbs you are entitled to have your say just as any other forum member.
As I said, it matters not to me how a person carves, it's his/her creation to do what they want with.
I only threw my 2 cents in because someone else resurrected a almost two month old dead thread with a new post that made it current.
Enjoyed your comments Charlotte, and they made sense to me.
Too bad "some" members here think that once they have had their say no on else need post their thoughts on the subject, ah well takes all kinds.

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OG

[AlArchie]

Thoughts?????? Geeze Gord, ya mean I gotta THINK about this stufff? Oh well, here comes another headache.. hehehehe!

Al

[Kenny_S]

LOL, looks like this thread has a life of its own!

[Ashbys]

Might be ,
Kenny but I think the reason it keeps popping up is more to the underlying reason for calling a piece hard carved as compared to power carved or power assisted.

It has nothing to do with carvers, because most of us could care less. But it does have a value increase to Joe public to be "hand carved" . If it wasn't for that simple value increase it would just be considered a carving.

Just opinion
Ash

[Kenny_S]

Maybe a better wording should be is it "knife carved" or "gouge "or "power carved" as there are some who believes only knife carved is "hand carved".

It lives.

[Paul_Guraedy]

Ash, your recent post shed a lot of light onto this topic, at least for me.

There are some topics that will never die nor or they willing to be "beat to death" (how to sharpen, hand carved, sandpaper, art or craft). These are subjects that seem to force us "old timers" to respond, even if it is only to say, "Oh No! Not again!" They draw our attention like magnets. This morning I read the other posts, started to leave and then decided to see what was happening to this long thread.

Nothing new. Then I read Ash's thoughts on why "hand carved" is important and, more to the point, to whom it is important. Like a cartoon character a light bulb went off in my head.

The hand carved statement is generally used when addressing the unknowing public. When a piece appears to have the potential for mass production. When they have a good deal of money at stake and want assurance they are not being ripped off. When they don't know the carver.

Interestingly, most of these folks seem to assume that hand carved does refer only to a pocket knife. I have actually been asked about one of my birds, "You carved THAT with a knife?" I had to explain gouges, rasps, flex-shaft, etc. Now, I get through that part in a hurry as I have come to realize that they are really interested only in the first three words of their question.

I sell only a few pieces each year and always before the carving is finished. The question of "hand carved" is not germaine as they see the carving in its various stages (even if only through photos). They could not care less about the tools used in its production. What seems to interest them most is revealed in the statements they make to people viewing the completed carving: That eagle was purple when he started to paint it. Those wings (tail, feet) are really separate pieces. Those feathers are burned. Paul Guraedy is a woodcaver and carved that for me (emphasis usually placed on the last two words even if it was not purchased until nearly complete).

In the short version: Hand carved is not important to those who know the carver or know something about carving, unless they feel it necessary to defend their purchase.

[Big_Al]

Hand carved means no power tools used in the carving process. There it is - one sentence. HELLO Big Al

[BobD]

Ah, but Al...does that then exclude the bandsawing of the blank? Roughing out the carving with a powered bandsaw is part of the carving process...

Bob (Who sometimes takes a lot of glee in stirring up the pot)

[Kenny_S]

A thread the keeps on!

[Old_Gord]

And so it will untill someone decides that they don't have to have the last word on the subject. .

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Og