Welcome to the Woodcarving Illustrated Message Board, an online wood carving forum community where you can join thousands of carvers from around the world discussing all things related to carving. To gain full access to the message board you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to:
  • Browse over 90,000 posts.
  • Communicate privately with other carvers from around the world.
  • Post your own photos or view from 3,500 user submitted images.
  • Gain access to exclusive wood carving promotions offered by Wood Carving Illustrated and Fox Chapel Publishing.
All this and much more is available to you absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact the Woodcarving Illustrated Message Board's Support Team.

Go Back   Woodcarving Illustrated Message Board > Wood Carving > Relief and Chip Carving
Connect with Facebook

Relief and Chip Carving

Reply
Share Thread:
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-03-2011, 08:29 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 132
Default How do you relief carve???

Hi guys!!

I want to try my hand in relief carving but how do you relief carve? I mean how do you actually begin? I have a little angel charm I want to increase in size and relief carve it but don't know how to begin.

Any suggestions greatly welcome!!

Patty
__________________
Patricia "Patty" Lopez--Newbie Carver

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-03-2011, 08:57 PM
squbrigg's Avatar
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Miramichi, NB, Canada
Posts: 5,958
Send a message via MSN to squbrigg
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

Whole books have been written to explain the process, but the basics are:

1. Draw your image on a plank of wood, the angel.

2. Make a stop cut all around the outside edge of the angel.

3. Use a gouge to remove the wood on the outside of the stop cut, the background, about 1/3 of the depth should do.

4. Carve the angel, just round the edges and carve the highlights of the body, head, etc.

I'd suggest you get your hands on a book covering the subject or some magazine articles. Your local library might have some to start with. Check out books on basic wood carving, they often have sections covering relief carving. The idea is to have your subject stand out from the background and look as much like the subject as possible. Experiment, do some homework and most importantly ..... practice! You'll enjoy it.

Bob
__________________
Before they slip me over the standing part of the fore sheet, I'd like to pipe: "Up Spirits" or "Splice the Main Brace" .....................one more time.

http://community.webshots.com/user/squbrigg

link to Gallery photos
http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.co...user/2823/sl/s
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-03-2011, 09:03 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 132
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

Quote:
Originally Posted by squbrigg View Post
Whole books have been written to explain the process, but the basics are:

1. Draw your image on a plank of wood, the angel.

2. Make a stop cut all around the outside edge of the angel.

3. Use a gouge to remove the wood on the outside of the stop cut, the background, about 1/3 of the depth should do.

4. Carve the angel, just round the edges and carve the highlights of the body, head, etc.

I'd suggest you get your hands on a book covering the subject or some magazine articles. Your local library might have some to start with. Check out books on basic wood carving, they often have sections covering relief carving. The idea is to have your subject stand out from the background and look as much like the subject as possible. Experiment, do some homework and most importantly ..... practice! You'll enjoy it.

Bob
so very much Bob!! Very clear, concise and to the point!!

Patty
__________________
Patricia "Patty" Lopez--Newbie Carver

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-04-2011, 10:24 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Morrisonville, N.Y. ,near N.Y.,Vt., Quebec border area
Posts: 391
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

What Bob said, have fun, look in used book stores also.
Carve On,
Kadiddle
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-04-2011, 11:24 AM
Irish's Avatar
Fox Chapel Author
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mid-Maryland, USA
Posts: 2,951
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

Before you even go off the forum go here:

Relief Carving Wood Spirit Grape Man WIP

That's a full, in-depth look at relief carving the wood spirit/greenman face and will provide the basics to our style of carving.

Susan
__________________
Wood Carving and Pyrography Patterns
Classic Carving Patterns
, by Lora S. Irish
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-04-2011, 01:17 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 132
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish View Post
Before you even go off the forum go here:

Relief Carving Wood Spirit Grape Man WIP

That's a full, in-depth look at relief carving the wood spirit/greenman face and will provide the basics to our style of carving.

Susan
Susan!! I will be checking that out now and learn the techniques!!
I have another question though, how would I know how deep to go in my carving? The wood I am using is 8 x 6 x 1" thick basswood. I wanna do high relief not low so do I go no deeper than 3/4 inch deep or is that too deep and risk the board becoming weak/warping?

Patty

P.S. I wanna do this Angel carving, how do I figure out what level is what?
__________________
Patricia "Patty" Lopez--Newbie Carver


Last edited by patriclop2pl; 11-04-2011 at 01:27 PM. Reason: Add question on developing the levels in a relief carving and to add pattern I want to carve.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-04-2011, 01:30 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 132
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

I guess I added the link to the picture wrong so here is the picture.
Attached Images
File Type: gif smiling angel pattern from google.gif (9.0 KB, 6 views)
__________________
Patricia "Patty" Lopez--Newbie Carver

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-04-2011, 03:55 PM
Irish's Avatar
Fox Chapel Author
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mid-Maryland, USA
Posts: 2,951
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

Patty, that is the ultimate question for any relief project ...

My rule of thumb is to work in the top one half of the board, allowing the second half to secure against warping, cupping, and splitting.

So for a 4/4 board you can work your deepest areas of the background to 2/4s - 1/2" for a flat, even background. As the board thickens you want to back off that 1/2 rule of thumb a touch. Thicker cuts put more tension on the wood as it naturally adjusts to changes in the air temperature and moisture. A 2" thick blank will have more chance to develop a very dry area along the edge with a more moist area in the middle of the blank, thus putting greater strain of the carving.

If the background will be sloped where I work the background in a concave (bowl shaped) curve I can work the very deepest inner section maybe just a bit more.

For me 1/2" allows an amazing amount of depth and detail to be done. I'll go see what photo I might have a 1/2" carving depth.

Susan
__________________
Wood Carving and Pyrography Patterns
Classic Carving Patterns
, by Lora S. Irish
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-04-2011, 04:09 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: McBride, BC
Posts: 2,127
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

1. Make several copies of the drawing, of a size to fit the block.
2. How thick is the block? Based on that I try to decide on no more than 4 depth levels and mark them on one of the drawings. Maxium might be to leave 1/4 of the block at the bottom.
So those levels could be surface, 1/4", 1/2", 3/4". What's in front and on top? What's behind that?
3. Follow squbrigg's advice. I use a double-beveled carver's chisel for the stop cut. You can't hammer the stop cut to the finished depth in the first go-round. Might have to do stop cuts along lines 5+ times to eventually get the depth you designed.
4. I do very little relief carving any more. This winter will be shallow simple relief carving for wood block printing. I'm inclined to think thaqt undercut edges look better but that's just an opinion (or maybe an opi-onion?)

Last edited by Robson Valley; 11-04-2011 at 04:11 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-04-2011, 04:42 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Michigan
Posts: 695
Default Re: How do you relief carve???

I don't want to hi-jack this thread but had a question that goes along with it. As far as the grain direction, I have heard that when you look at the end of the board the grain should curve up, like a smile instead of a frown. Is that correct or doesn't it matter?

Eric
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Article discussion thread:Relief Carve a Magical Fairy Door WCIarticleBot Publisher Feedback 1 03-14-2010 03:01 PM
Article discussion thread:Relief Carve the Captain WCIarticleBot Publisher Feedback 0 03-09-2010 10:25 PM
Instructors - to carve or not to carve? Paul_Guraedy Wood Carving Tips and Techniques 26 09-22-2007 09:03 AM
Relief wood ready to carve on? Kim Carving Wood & Materials 13 02-28-2006 02:22 PM
softening hard wood to carve relief Guest Relief and Chip Carving 13 11-04-2002 03:34 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:38 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2010 Fox Chapel Publishing Co., Woodcarving Illustrated

SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2