Looking for Raven Pattern

slakajuster · #1 03-05-2005, 06:12 PM

Hi. New to the board, looking for a pattern of a Northern Raven, profile preferrably. If you have any info as to where I can get this, please post here or email me at slakajuster@hotmail.com

Thanks so much

Len

Mike-in-WV · #2 03-05-2005, 06:58 PM

If this link doesn't work for you just go to your Google search and typ in Raven and then select images. You will end up with hundreds of pictures ans drawings to make a pattern from. I just tried it. Mike

http://images.google.com/images?q=Ra...ff&sa=N&tab=wi

Nancy_G · #3 03-05-2005, 07:42 PM

Stiller Patterns - www.stillerpatterns.com has one raven (and lots of crows).
The raven is on page 17, http://www.stillerpatterns.com/catalog_page_17.html

Nancy_G · #4 03-05-2005, 07:44 PM

Nice photo, huh? I have no idea what happened ???
Also, Fishgap, one of our members has a fantastic collection of raven stuff. Maybe he'll along to help us out.

squbrigg · #5 03-06-2005, 08:34 AM

Great photo Nancy....a raven at night with his eyes closed!!!

I'll pin that one up right next to the one of a cow eating grass!

Bob

AlArchie · #6 03-06-2005, 10:19 AM

Here's a photo with a fair profile.

Al

carver6 · #7 03-06-2005, 03:25 PM

Can someone tell me what the difference is in a Raven versus a Crow?

Nancy_G · #8 03-06-2005, 03:38 PM

A very simplified answer.......
*Crows are 14 1/2" - 17" long and ravens are about 21" long.
*Ravens have that distinctive neck, chin and chest rough feathering.
*Crows are common coast to coast and border to border in USA but ravens are common only in west and north west areas and in Canada. *One variety of raven is common in Mexico and SW areas of USA.
*Crows and ravens do not inter-breed.

I live in Missouri and feed many dozens of crows -- I love them, but I've never seen a raven in my life.

AlArchie · #9 03-06-2005, 04:59 PM

In flight you can spot the difference pretty easily......ravens have a wedge shaped tail and a crow's is fan shaped. Unless I miss my bet, the crows also soar with wings fairly straight out and ravens have a slight dihederal. The ravens around here are huge! Crows don't normally get much bigger that a pigeon (a big pigeon). I'll see if I can get some pics of their nests here when they start to breed. Their aeiries are on the side of steep cliffs and we have just the ticket for them to nest right behind our house. Raven Habitat!

Al

carver6 · #10 03-06-2005, 10:35 PM

Thanks for the explanation. I'd heard the terms all my life but always thought and have been told they were the same species, just different names. Thanks again. Now I can say I learned something today.
Garon