Snowman Collectors Plate

[Jyd]

I am a pretty new carver and would like to do this plate that is in the 2008 Holiday Issue of Woodcarving Illustrated.

My problem is I have a Flexcut starter set and want to add the tools I need to do this project but the tools used in the article are not the same ones listed in the "materials and tools" list at the end of the article.

Step 2 says to use a 10mm #3 gouge but that tool is not in the list.

The list has #10 gouges 3mm and 8mm.

The same with steps 4, 5, 6 and 10 they say 8mm #3 gouge which is not in the list either. It is the same in step 7 and 8 with the 4mm #9 gouge and step 10 with the 2mm #11 gouge.

I understand that the numbers have been switched but which is correct the article or the "materials & tools" list.

This article states these are Pfeil tools but I can not find a 10mm #3 gouge or a 3mm #10 gouge on there website. I can find the #15 3mm and 6mm V tools and #11 2mm gouge.

Also since Pfeil does not show a #4 gouge in any size I figured it would me a #9 gouge in a 4mm size but that size is not listed on their website either.

I thought that a magazine like this would have a proof reader to catch these problems.

Can someone please help me figure out what tools are actually used on this project.

Thank you.

[twilli227]

Jyd, I have started on this same project. I only used the palm tools I got from "Little Shavers", so I do not have the same sizes listed in the article. I would not get too hooked on what the author uses, but use the sizes and tools that you are comfortable with. Yes, some of the cuts would have been easier with a different gouge, but I got the job done with what I have. Everybody carves in their own personal way, so do what is best for you.
The # corresponds to the sweep of the gouge, and the mm is the size of the sweep.
Check out Woodcraft, they do have the sizes you are looking for and you will see the different sizes and how they are marked:
Gouges - Woodcraft.com

I hope this helps, as I am new to this also and understand what you are going through.

Todd

[Kenny_S]

The listing is a reference of what the carver used. I know the two classes I took and the reference of tools but I did not have all of the and you can get by wsubing what you have. The beginners kit you got from Rick at Littleshavers ought to do the job. I would hate to buy every tool that a class recommends or an article listed, I would be broker more so than I am.

[Jyd]

Originally Posted by Kenny_S

The listing is a reference of what the carver used. I know the two classes I took and the reference of tools but I did not have all of the and you can get by wsubing what you have. The beginners kit you got from Rick at Littleshavers ought to do the job. I would hate to buy every tool that a class recommends or an article listed, I would be broker more so than I am.

Yes I understand they are a reference to give you an idea of what to use, but my Flexcut kit had no 45 degree V tools at all and a couple of others in the article I could not get close to.

What bothered me was that the numbers of the tools in the article and the ones listed in the material list were not the same and as such was making it very hard to try to find a couple I needed to add to my kit. I have since figured out what I needed and have them ordered. Now I need to find the plates would you have a good source for them?

Thanks

PS I am from Ks also, I am in Salina.

[Shannon]

Oh my! So sorry - we do check and double check and have the author check - but sometimes after you read something 7 times, you read what you know is SUPPOSED to be there instead of what is actually there.

I'll ask Bob to look into it when he's back in the office on Monday. Please accept my sincere apologies - you are right. There is no excuse - we are supposed to help - not cause confusion.

A quick internet search for "basswood plate" will turn up a host of vendors - or try your local woodcarving supply store.

The author's email is in the article and I'm sure he'd help you sort out the tools and possible substitutions if you send him note.

[Jyd]

Originally Posted by Shannon

Oh my! So sorry - we do check and double check and have the author check - but sometimes after you read something 7 times, you read what you know is SUPPOSED to be there instead of what is actually there.

I'll ask Bob to look into it when he's back in the office on Monday. Please accept my sincere apologies - you are right. There is no excuse - we are supposed to help - not cause confusion.

A quick internet search for "basswood plate" will turn up a host of vendors - or try your local woodcarving supply store.

The author's email is in the article and I'm sure he'd help you sort out the tools and possible substitutions if you send him note.

I have no local store but I finally found some on the internet. I wish I had a local store so I could go look at the items and learn the terms.

I have gotten my second issue of the magazine and I am very impressed. Enough so that I changed my trial subscription to a normal one for 2 years.

I am sure that with the help of this forum and your magazine I will learn what I need in time.

Thanks

[BobD]

I've double checked with the author.

The tools listed in the step by step are correct. Here is a corrected list of the tools used in the article.

6mm #15 (45°) V-tool
10mm #3 gouge
8mm #3 gouge
4mm #9 gouge
2mm #11 gouge
3mm #15 (45°) V-tool
Carving knife

Thanks for pointing this out.

Best regards,
Bob Duncan
Technical Editor

[papasar]

Jyd,
Try the Woodcraft shop for basswood plates. They have good prices and are nice folks to do business with.
Bill K.

woodcraft shop

[Jyd]

Thanks Bill K. for the information.

I have looked and the 10" plate I found is called a 10" Scoop. The article calls for a 10" flat beaded plate.

Are these the same thing?

This is the same plate I find on most sites. I finally got a basswood plaque from Hobby Lobby large enough to do the carving as I no one in my city carries the plate.

Thanks

[Mitchell]

You may be able to find it at BoxesNSuch. They were at the Charlotte show and had a good selection.

Here's a link to their site - > Home Page