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Old 12-03-2011, 12:02 AM
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Default Quick way to dry out green wood for carving?

Howdy. We just had a very old, very large maple fall from a storm in our yard. Most of it was hauled off, but I kept a few chunks for myself. I was wondering if you can accelerate the curing process with something as simple as placing the piece you want to carve in your oven at very (170 degrees) low heat for a few hours?

Is that reasonable?

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Default Re: Quick way to dry out green wood for carving?

You could do that why not, it may cause it to crack or not. I say carve it green and wet very fast then allow it to dry before you finish it. Carve several when you are finished with the last the first will be ready to sand and finish. Most carvers get hung up on cured wood just carve it and it will be fine.
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Default Re: Quick way to dry out green wood for carving?

Probably the fastest, in theory, is to build a vacuum chamber, put the wood in it, and use a vacuum pump to pull the air from the chamber. Leave it under vacuum for a couple of days and it should be dry when you take it out. Definitely not cheap, though...

If you have a friend who does commercial freeze-drying, that might help you also. One of these: http://www.millrocktech.com/

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There is some internal movement in wood. Rapid, forced drying can set up stresses in the wood which would otherwise be relieved gradually with air-drying. You get to discover those when you get 2/3 of the way through a carving and "snap the rubber band."
I'd suggest that you do some as Don suggests: "wet and fast" and let the carving dry out. Slab some for airdrying outdoors under cover, expect to lose 2-6" in each end from checking splits.
Generally 1" thickness per year. Can you get some slipped into a regular load going into a kiln dryer? Can you trade with any woodworker for some that's a little further along in the drying process?
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Default Re: Quick way to dry out green wood for carving?

Obviously, my post above was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, since you asked for "quick".
RV has given you some good suggestions. If you intend to do this in the future, you might google building a wood kiln - there are lots of plans out there, from something using 4 inch PVC pipe, to an old chest freezer to purpose-built "sheds". Another possibility to to immerse the wood in PEG for the appropriate time. http://owic.oregonstate.edu/pubs/peg.pdf

If you do try the oven idea, I'd suggest weighing the wood before you start and write down the weight. Every half hour or so, weigh it again and record the result. When you get a couple of weighings that are the same (no more loss of moisture), the wood is "dry". Then, please post back here to let us know how the experiment went. I'd also be interested in how much weight is lost each half hour...

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Default Re: Quick way to dry out green wood for carving?

Thanks for all the info and suggestions, guys. I think I'm going to take a small piece (looking to carve my first pipe, and I hear maple makes good ones) and try it in the oven. Don't think I'll get a chance before the kids get out for Christmas Break though, so as soon as I try it out, I'll let you all know if it worked.

Thanks for the quick replies!
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Small enough for a pipe... you might try microwaving it for a few seconds, and then letting it cool down, and microwave again, etc., weighing each time on a postal scale or what have you until the weight doesn't change... I thought you were talking about some wood chunks on the order of a foot or two thick. Go up to the Search link on the green bar and enter microwave and you should find several threads where people have talked about this.

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that's a great idea, i hadn't considered it. thanks, Claude!
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Have used the microwave for small pcs as well, it works. But it can get pretty hot, watceh your hands, as you are turning the moisture within the wood to steam which can easily escape the wood cells.

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Default Re: Quick way to dry out green wood for carving?

I've nuked green wood quite a few times and had pretty good results. I wrap tight it in a small paper bag and microwave for 30 to 45 seconds, then turn it over and do that again. Then let it cool. Then repeat the whole process, cooling included at least 5 or 6 times.
I have also used the colored newspaper if I didn't have the bags.
I don't have a small scale, so when the wood is cool, I put it up to my face or lips and if it still feels clammy and cool, I nuke it some more. Not very scientific, but it works for me.
I also leave the wrapped wood to cool in the kitchen sink, just in case it's smoldering, it hopefully won't catch the house on fire! And I can dowse it quick!
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