Welcome to the Woodcarving Illustrated Message Board, an online wood carving forum community where you can join thousands of carvers from around the world discussing all things related to carving. To gain full access to the message board you must register for a free account. As a registered member you will be able to:
  • Browse over 90,000 posts.
  • Communicate privately with other carvers from around the world.
  • Post your own photos or view from 3,500 user submitted images.
  • Gain access to exclusive wood carving promotions offered by Wood Carving Illustrated and Fox Chapel Publishing.
All this and much more is available to you absolutely free when you register for an account, so sign up today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact the Woodcarving Illustrated Message Board's Support Team.

Go Back   Woodcarving Illustrated Message Board > Wood Carving > Wood Carving for Beginners
Connect with Facebook

American Science & Surplus
Wood Carving for Beginners

Reply
Share Thread:
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-22-2011, 02:09 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: North Central Arkansas
Posts: 66
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Best tools for relief carving?

Hi All,

As a new member of the forum I thought I would pick your brains. I have read many of the threads on various subjects and really enjoy the wealth of information available.

I make craft style furniture and want to start doing landscape and wildlife relief carving on some of my pieces. I am currently taking a 12 week carving class at the local carving club but would like other opinions on tools. I have some questions.

1. What are the best brands of tools that hold their edge and require the least amount of sharpening/honing/stropping during and/or between sessions? I'm on a budget but I firmly believe you get what you pay for - most of the time.
2. What chisels, knives and gouges will work the best? I am interested in a complete list, if there is such a thing. Once a project is started I hate when I realize that if I only had such and such tool it would be so much easier to do a good job.
3. I am considering joining Chris Pye's site that offers tutorials. Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance for your comments.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-22-2011, 03:56 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 113
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

Hello;
Welcome to the forum.
I am also just starting to get into relief carving myself.
You may want to check out the following web site.

carvingpatterns.com

Loads of information on there.
Good luck;
Larry
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-22-2011, 04:12 PM
Gulf Coast Handyman's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Wesley Chapel Fl.
Posts: 12,359
Thanks: 70
Thanked 135 Times in 118 Posts
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

welcome, Drake Knives.com They now make tools with long handles, better for relief carving (IMHO)

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-22-2011, 04:27 PM
Sharon of the Dell's Avatar
MyMother'sDaughter!
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: nor cal,under the redwoods, near the Pacific
Posts: 5,521
Thanks: 126
Thanked 51 Times in 28 Posts
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

I have 3 intermediate two cherries that are great. Came in a set with a knife for about $100. I have the sculpture set of 4 flexcut gouges that are great for hogging out lots of wood. I have some antique and vintage tools from ebay and etsy that I sent to Little Shavers for sharpening and are excellent tools now.
For about $365 which included shipping, I bought the 20 piece sculpture and 13 piece beginner set gouges made by Mastercarver. Hand forged not mass produced in China. The bevel is a little different than the other tools but they came nice and sharp. the steel seems to be very hard and they hold an edge. I strop them often like i do the other tools. Some folks say don't buy sets, but I'm really glad I got these and find I'm using them all pretty much. Look at Chinese carvings- they use these tools, that says a lot about what you can do with them and also experience.
33 tools for the price you can get 6 or 7 swiss made. That's a good deal for me. Maybe if i had some pfeils I would like them better??? Compared with the 2 cherries and the oldies, I say they carve pretty darn good!
The flexcut are good also, although i did nick a blade, but I was carving a big hunk of driftwood and hit sand.
Any way that's my thoughts.

Last edited by Sharon of the Dell; 05-29-2011 at 04:17 PM. Reason: wrong price
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-22-2011, 05:19 PM
mdallensr's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,383
Thanks: 279
Thanked 173 Times in 114 Posts
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

Following Chris Pye will put you on the right track. He has a book on relief carving that he uses to teach his classes. It lists the correct tools to use, and tools to add for advanced work. You're right again about quality tools. Buy them right, buy them once; they will last a lifetime and more. I prefer Pfeil and have tried several other brands. They come sharp and ready to use. Mike
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-23-2011, 12:51 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: McBride, BC
Posts: 6,177
Thanks: 217
Thanked 404 Times in 351 Posts
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

Gary: You will get what you pay for. In the long run, top tools like Ashley or Pfeil (mine) save you time and money. As it is your plan to do relief work, probably in hardwoods, I'd advise you to buy tools which cost just a little more than you want to spend. Pfeil are dependable. I don't regret what I've spent.
Sharpening and honing = get used to the idea. Whether you want to or not, this is no more than a skill to be learned. Hit a knot with a cheap tool or an expensive one, you haver to hit the stones and strop (or buy another tool which may not arrive "carving sharp."
I carve in soft woods. Still, it's so easy to tell when a little stropping would make the work 'smoother'. Is that a good word? Smooth? Even a few wipes on my gloves change the edge.
A cheap set of little tools have an advantage in that you can practice sharpening.
They're good for linocuts for printing but not much more.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-23-2011, 11:56 AM
Donsexton's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Gulfport MS
Posts: 3,041
Thanks: 7
Thanked 105 Times in 84 Posts
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

Bent full size tools are best for that type of carving.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-23-2011, 04:13 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: North Central Arkansas
Posts: 66
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the comments so far. They have been a great help. After your various recommendations and a lot more research I have decided to go with pfeil for now. I plan on getting about a dozen of the full size tools to start.

Another question though. I spend a lot of money on having my plane irons, bevel chisels, planer and jointer blades sharpened each year and have decided to get a Tormek T-7. How will this work for tuning up new carving tools and stropping with the leather wheel?

Thanks,
Gary
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-06-2011, 04:34 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Germany, Wuppertal
Posts: 62
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

Hi Gary,
i have a similar Wetgrinder (not Tormek) it's great for sharpening all kind of carving- and other woodworkingtools.
Problem you could have it the perpendicular fixture on plane irons or chisels. My grinder is not exact 90 from toolholder to the stone, so after sharpening the edge is skewed. You can correct this, if you fix the tool skewed in the fixture.
From a other carver, with a Tormek, i know he has the same mess. So pay attention on this behavior.
For straight tools you need no fixture, for bent or short bent the SVD-185 is a very good help to save time. I don't use the leatherwheel for small tools, that makes to much grooves. So i'd like to strop them by hand.
__________________
Thomas
http://www.hobby-schnitzen.de

Last edited by germancarver; 06-06-2011 at 04:38 PM. Reason: forgotten detail
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-07-2011, 03:42 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: McBride, BC
Posts: 6,177
Thanks: 217
Thanked 404 Times in 351 Posts
Default Re: Best tools for relief carving?

Carpenter's tools = 30 degrees included bevel.
Wood carving tools = 20 degrees included bevel angle.
Wood carving knives = 12-15 degrees.
I don't understand the reluctance to admit what the most useful bevel angles really are. Without that, you can screw up the most expensive of steels and wonder why.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Relief Carving tools - Art Nouveau DaleM General Wood Carving 17 07-30-2010 11:09 AM
New to relief carving help on choosing tools spafa9 Relief and Chip Carving 5 05-12-2010 09:14 AM
Relief Carving Tools DMH1112 Wood Carving for Beginners 11 07-29-2009 03:29 PM
relief carving tools Dennis Taylor Relief and Chip Carving 1 04-01-2009 08:36 PM
Relief Carving Tools woodenleg Relief and Chip Carving 13 07-20-2003 11:12 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:53 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2000 - 2010 Fox Chapel Publishing Co., Woodcarving Illustrated

SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2